Comments for Vision4men http://vision4men.org Information, dialogue about manhood issues, news pertaining to men Sun, 05 Sep 2010 15:32:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 Comment on Bravehearted Gospel by randy http://vision4men.org/2008/10/01/bravehearted-gospel/comment-page-1/#comment-18 randy Tue, 14 Oct 2008 00:49:15 +0000 http://vision4men.org/?p=56#comment-18 Alan, Stay true to the Canonization that Eric talks about and become brave as you share your heart in Sunday School or small groups. Always share your faith as scripture and the word is what calls to others hearts. I always try to give a scriptural challenge. If people can not stay in the conversation with scripture they are dull to the word and all the work on our part is futile since they are always hearing but never understand! Randy Alan,

Stay true to the Canonization that Eric talks about and become brave as you share your heart in Sunday School or small groups. Always share your faith as scripture and the word is what calls to others hearts. I always try to give a scriptural challenge. If people can not stay in the conversation with scripture they are dull to the word and all the work on our part is futile since they are always hearing but never understand!

Randy

]]> Comment on Bravehearted Gospel by Alan http://vision4men.org/2008/10/01/bravehearted-gospel/comment-page-1/#comment-17 Alan Sun, 12 Oct 2008 18:04:03 +0000 http://vision4men.org/?p=56#comment-17 Hey brother, I think you and I read the same email from Pure Live ministries. You are so right about the book, I'm just floored. I was saved in 2000, so I have not seen the church for the decades that you have. But I want the church that he talks about. Keep fighting the good fight. Alan Hey brother,

I think you and I read the same email from Pure Live ministries. You are so right about the book, I’m just floored. I was saved in 2000, so I have not seen the church for the decades that you have. But I want the church that he talks about.

Keep fighting the good fight.

Alan

]]> Comment on Matured into Manhood? by Jim Shields http://vision4men.org/2007/12/08/matured-into-manhood/comment-page-1/#comment-14 Jim Shields Wed, 17 Sep 2008 15:11:46 +0000 http://vision4men.org/2007/12/08/matured-into-manhood/#comment-14 That is part of the problem, isn't it? For many of our young men, and maybe many of us boomers, there was never a defining point of "you have now entered into Manhood". There use to be. Fathers were able to help there boys ease into manhood, because they were there. As men's ministry leaders, we need to equip our pastors and men in ways to lead our young men into mature manhood. Robert Lewis has many good resources, as does Patrick Morely, John eldridge, Stu Weber, etc. We need to actively cultivate our young men into accepting reponsibly the roles that God has prescribed for mature men. It is time for the Men of God to accept the reponsibility we have to usher our young men into maturity, spiritually and socially. If we don't society will continue to do so, and we see where that has gotten us..... That is part of the problem, isn’t it? For many of our young men, and maybe many of us boomers, there was never a defining point of “you have now entered into Manhood”. There use to be. Fathers were able to help there boys ease into manhood, because they were there. As men’s ministry leaders, we need to equip our pastors and men in ways to lead our young men into mature manhood. Robert Lewis has many good resources, as does Patrick Morely, John eldridge, Stu Weber, etc. We need to actively cultivate our young men into accepting reponsibly the roles that God has prescribed for mature men. It is time for the Men of God to accept the reponsibility we have to usher our young men into maturity, spiritually and socially. If we don’t society will continue to do so, and we see where that has gotten us…..

]]> Comment on Matured into Manhood? by Christina http://vision4men.org/2007/12/08/matured-into-manhood/comment-page-1/#comment-7 Christina Mon, 14 Apr 2008 18:11:01 +0000 http://vision4men.org/2007/12/08/matured-into-manhood/#comment-7 Young men become real men when they are able to get over their insecurities and jealousies while taking full responsibility for their actions. That is when you know you have graduated to a man. Young men become real men when they are able to get over their insecurities and jealousies while taking full responsibility for their actions. That is when you know you have graduated to a man.

]]> Comment on Matured into Manhood? by Troy Smith http://vision4men.org/2007/12/08/matured-into-manhood/comment-page-1/#comment-5 Troy Smith Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:58:32 +0000 http://vision4men.org/2007/12/08/matured-into-manhood/#comment-5 First take a step back, remember what it was like as a child when the mail came? Your parents always received the coolest magazines, a neat package, or all those cool white envelopes containing all sorts of great information, mouth dropping information even. A young boy could not wait till he was important enough to gain the knowledge those envelopes pertained. Now lets take a step forward, those envelopes do contain a multitude of mouth dropping information, but lets be honest it is not always the great news we desire. A lot of society tells a man that he is entered his manhood in a variety of ways, finishing school, a good job, legal age limit of 18, a son or daughter. All of these are ways that society has to say that you are now a man. Different religions also have ways of bringing young boys into adulthood through traditional religious ceremonies. Yet, with what society and religion has to throw at all the young kids in this world how does either know when that child is mature enough for adulthood? The way I started to feel like a "young man" was by the usual age process, getting into college, a job, and of course bills. But that is not the point and time when I finally understood that I had bridged the gap and entered into manhood. For me it was when the men in my life, my father, my mentor, and my best friends father (Randy) began talking to me at a spiritual level of equal grounds. While these men are by far further along in their spiritual walks, there came a day when each of them sat with me and discussed life and faith at a new level. It was not the usual father to son type of talk, it was man to man. Yes there are societal factors in my life that made me understand I was now in a new world of responsibility and understanding. But the “mature” (I use the term lightly) I came when the those who had been looking over me and guiding me had started to look at me as man of God with growing faith, and not just a boy wondering who God is. First take a step back, remember what it was like as a child when the mail came? Your parents always received the coolest magazines, a neat package, or all those cool white envelopes containing all sorts of great information, mouth dropping information even. A young boy could not wait till he was important enough to gain the knowledge those envelopes pertained.
Now lets take a step forward, those envelopes do contain a multitude of mouth dropping information, but lets be honest it is not always the great news we desire.
A lot of society tells a man that he is entered his manhood in a variety of ways, finishing school, a good job, legal age limit of 18, a son or daughter. All of these are ways that society has to say that you are now a man. Different religions also have ways of bringing young boys into adulthood through traditional religious ceremonies.
Yet, with what society and religion has to throw at all the young kids in this world how does either know when that child is mature enough for adulthood?
The way I started to feel like a “young man” was by the usual age process, getting into college, a job, and of course bills. But that is not the point and time when I finally understood that I had bridged the gap and entered into manhood.
For me it was when the men in my life, my father, my mentor, and my best friends father (Randy) began talking to me at a spiritual level of equal grounds. While these men are by far further along in their spiritual walks, there came a day when each of them sat with me and discussed life and faith at a new level. It was not the usual father to son type of talk, it was man to man.
Yes there are societal factors in my life that made me understand I was now in a new world of responsibility and understanding. But the “mature” (I use the term lightly) I came when the those who had been looking over me and guiding me had started to look at me as man of God with growing faith, and not just a boy wondering who God is.

]]> Comment on first timer by Don http://vision4men.org/2007/11/06/first-timer/comment-page-1/#comment-3 Don Sat, 17 Nov 2007 17:39:36 +0000 http://vision4men.org/2007/11/05/post-1/#comment-3 Your new web sight looks good. I'll check it out every so often to see new thing's coming up. Talk to you soon. Don Your new web sight looks good. I’ll check it out every so often to see new thing’s coming up. Talk to you soon.

Don

]]> Comment on Deer Hunting - The Nite Before by gotwww http://vision4men.org/2007/11/14/deer-hunting-the-nite-before/comment-page-1/#comment-2 gotwww Fri, 16 Nov 2007 13:42:13 +0000 http://vision4men.org/2007/11/14/deer-hunting-the-nite-before/#comment-2 here's one for you; http://nbwesleyan.org/lifefaith/mike.php :dean here’s one for you;

http://nbwesleyan.org/lifefaith/mike.php

:dean

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