Comments for Vision4men http://vision4men.org Information, dialogue about manhood issues, news pertaining to men Mon, 06 Feb 2012 07:18:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 Comment on Evening - Start of my day by randy http://vision4men.org/2007/11/22/25/comment-page-1/#comment-45 randy Wed, 22 Jun 2011 10:35:26 +0000 http://vision4men.org/2007/11/22/25/#comment-45 Sorry for the long overdue response but God has brought a family move into our life and just have not had the time to blog much less respond. I pray that now a few months down the road you have tried to begin to end your day as I wrote about by contemplating how to live tomorrow as Christ modeled so well. It is not normal in this fast paced and high tech world to slow oneself down to not write one last e-mail or respond to the last text message just before turning in. Yet consider the connection that Christ had with His Father, God Almighty and I believe once realized you will come to the same conclusion that being in tune with His Son by quieting our hearts, minds and life as we retire the evening will ultimately allow us to make more sense out of life as we experience it. Randy Sorry for the long overdue response but God has brought a family move into our life and just have not had the time to blog much less respond. I pray that now a few months down the road you have tried to begin to end your day as I wrote about by contemplating how to live tomorrow as Christ modeled so well. It is not normal in this fast paced and high tech world to slow oneself down to not write one last e-mail or respond to the last text message just before turning in. Yet consider the connection that Christ had with His Father, God Almighty and I believe once realized you will come to the same conclusion that being in tune with His Son by quieting our hearts, minds and life as we retire the evening will ultimately allow us to make more sense out of life as we experience it.

Randy

]]> Comment on Solitude & Silence by hemp http://vision4men.org/2009/02/19/solitude-silence/comment-page-1/#comment-44 hemp Tue, 21 Jun 2011 13:41:14 +0000 http://vision4men.org/?p=57#comment-44 Silence ..The Still Small Voice of God....Both Terence Kardong and Esther De Waal express an initial disappointment in this brief..chapter. Perhaps this disappointment stems from the rich experience each has had with silence..that doesnt seem to be caught as effectively in Benedicts words as they are in writings by other..spiritual masters. Time and time again Benedict shows that he prefers to draw our..attention to his teachings with the sparsest of words...One of the paradoxes about speaking or writing about silence is that using words in any..quantity is likely to undermine its subject. Silence ..The Still Small Voice of God….Both Terence Kardong and Esther De Waal express an initial disappointment in this brief..chapter. Perhaps this disappointment stems from the rich experience each has had with silence..that doesnt seem to be caught as effectively in Benedicts words as they are in writings by other..spiritual masters. Time and time again Benedict shows that he prefers to draw our..attention to his teachings with the sparsest of words…One of the paradoxes about speaking or writing about silence is that using words in any..quantity is likely to undermine its subject.

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]]> Comment on Bravehearted Gospel by Rich Gerberding http://vision4men.org/2008/10/01/bravehearted-gospel/comment-page-1/#comment-33 Rich Gerberding Sun, 31 Jan 2010 19:56:31 +0000 http://vision4men.org/?p=56#comment-33 Randy - I'll definitely be looking into this - thanks for mentioning it this weekend and I enjoyed getting to know you more. Had an incredibly productive flight home and a lot of random pieces are falling into place with a clarity I haven't had in a while! Because He Lives, Rich Randy -

I’ll definitely be looking into this - thanks for mentioning it this weekend and I enjoyed getting to know you more.

Had an incredibly productive flight home and a lot of random pieces are falling into place with a clarity I haven’t had in a while!

Because He Lives,
Rich

]]> Comment on Bravehearted Gospel by Joshua http://vision4men.org/2008/10/01/bravehearted-gospel/comment-page-1/#comment-32 Joshua Wed, 28 Oct 2009 02:02:27 +0000 http://vision4men.org/?p=56#comment-32 I full-heartedly agree. The things Eric has addressed are very real and we need to do something. Unfortunately, the Church has become weak as we try to please the world. We need to right this ship and stand for the undiluted Gospel. I stand in agreement with Mr. Ludy for our King. If you haven't read this book, I highly recommend you do. Contra Mundum! I full-heartedly agree. The things Eric has addressed are very real and we need to do something. Unfortunately, the Church has become weak as we try to please the world. We need to right this ship and stand for the undiluted Gospel. I stand in agreement with Mr. Ludy for our King. If you haven’t read this book, I highly recommend you do.

Contra Mundum!

]]> Comment on Bravehearted Gospel by randy http://vision4men.org/2008/10/01/bravehearted-gospel/comment-page-1/#comment-18 randy Tue, 14 Oct 2008 00:49:15 +0000 http://vision4men.org/?p=56#comment-18 Alan, Stay true to the Canonization that Eric talks about and become brave as you share your heart in Sunday School or small groups. Always share your faith as scripture and the word is what calls to others hearts. I always try to give a scriptural challenge. If people can not stay in the conversation with scripture they are dull to the word and all the work on our part is futile since they are always hearing but never understand! Randy Alan,

Stay true to the Canonization that Eric talks about and become brave as you share your heart in Sunday School or small groups. Always share your faith as scripture and the word is what calls to others hearts. I always try to give a scriptural challenge. If people can not stay in the conversation with scripture they are dull to the word and all the work on our part is futile since they are always hearing but never understand!

Randy

]]> Comment on Bravehearted Gospel by Alan http://vision4men.org/2008/10/01/bravehearted-gospel/comment-page-1/#comment-17 Alan Sun, 12 Oct 2008 18:04:03 +0000 http://vision4men.org/?p=56#comment-17 Hey brother, I think you and I read the same email from Pure Live ministries. You are so right about the book, I'm just floored. I was saved in 2000, so I have not seen the church for the decades that you have. But I want the church that he talks about. Keep fighting the good fight. Alan Hey brother,

I think you and I read the same email from Pure Live ministries. You are so right about the book, I’m just floored. I was saved in 2000, so I have not seen the church for the decades that you have. But I want the church that he talks about.

Keep fighting the good fight.

Alan

]]> Comment on Matured into Manhood? by Jim Shields http://vision4men.org/2007/12/08/matured-into-manhood/comment-page-1/#comment-14 Jim Shields Wed, 17 Sep 2008 15:11:46 +0000 http://vision4men.org/2007/12/08/matured-into-manhood/#comment-14 That is part of the problem, isn't it? For many of our young men, and maybe many of us boomers, there was never a defining point of "you have now entered into Manhood". There use to be. Fathers were able to help there boys ease into manhood, because they were there. As men's ministry leaders, we need to equip our pastors and men in ways to lead our young men into mature manhood. Robert Lewis has many good resources, as does Patrick Morely, John eldridge, Stu Weber, etc. We need to actively cultivate our young men into accepting reponsibly the roles that God has prescribed for mature men. It is time for the Men of God to accept the reponsibility we have to usher our young men into maturity, spiritually and socially. If we don't society will continue to do so, and we see where that has gotten us..... That is part of the problem, isn’t it? For many of our young men, and maybe many of us boomers, there was never a defining point of “you have now entered into Manhood”. There use to be. Fathers were able to help there boys ease into manhood, because they were there. As men’s ministry leaders, we need to equip our pastors and men in ways to lead our young men into mature manhood. Robert Lewis has many good resources, as does Patrick Morely, John eldridge, Stu Weber, etc. We need to actively cultivate our young men into accepting reponsibly the roles that God has prescribed for mature men. It is time for the Men of God to accept the reponsibility we have to usher our young men into maturity, spiritually and socially. If we don’t society will continue to do so, and we see where that has gotten us…..

]]> Comment on Matured into Manhood? by Christina http://vision4men.org/2007/12/08/matured-into-manhood/comment-page-1/#comment-7 Christina Mon, 14 Apr 2008 18:11:01 +0000 http://vision4men.org/2007/12/08/matured-into-manhood/#comment-7 Young men become real men when they are able to get over their insecurities and jealousies while taking full responsibility for their actions. That is when you know you have graduated to a man. Young men become real men when they are able to get over their insecurities and jealousies while taking full responsibility for their actions. That is when you know you have graduated to a man.

]]> Comment on Matured into Manhood? by Troy Smith http://vision4men.org/2007/12/08/matured-into-manhood/comment-page-1/#comment-5 Troy Smith Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:58:32 +0000 http://vision4men.org/2007/12/08/matured-into-manhood/#comment-5 First take a step back, remember what it was like as a child when the mail came? Your parents always received the coolest magazines, a neat package, or all those cool white envelopes containing all sorts of great information, mouth dropping information even. A young boy could not wait till he was important enough to gain the knowledge those envelopes pertained. Now lets take a step forward, those envelopes do contain a multitude of mouth dropping information, but lets be honest it is not always the great news we desire. A lot of society tells a man that he is entered his manhood in a variety of ways, finishing school, a good job, legal age limit of 18, a son or daughter. All of these are ways that society has to say that you are now a man. Different religions also have ways of bringing young boys into adulthood through traditional religious ceremonies. Yet, with what society and religion has to throw at all the young kids in this world how does either know when that child is mature enough for adulthood? The way I started to feel like a "young man" was by the usual age process, getting into college, a job, and of course bills. But that is not the point and time when I finally understood that I had bridged the gap and entered into manhood. For me it was when the men in my life, my father, my mentor, and my best friends father (Randy) began talking to me at a spiritual level of equal grounds. While these men are by far further along in their spiritual walks, there came a day when each of them sat with me and discussed life and faith at a new level. It was not the usual father to son type of talk, it was man to man. Yes there are societal factors in my life that made me understand I was now in a new world of responsibility and understanding. But the “mature” (I use the term lightly) I came when the those who had been looking over me and guiding me had started to look at me as man of God with growing faith, and not just a boy wondering who God is. First take a step back, remember what it was like as a child when the mail came? Your parents always received the coolest magazines, a neat package, or all those cool white envelopes containing all sorts of great information, mouth dropping information even. A young boy could not wait till he was important enough to gain the knowledge those envelopes pertained.
Now lets take a step forward, those envelopes do contain a multitude of mouth dropping information, but lets be honest it is not always the great news we desire.
A lot of society tells a man that he is entered his manhood in a variety of ways, finishing school, a good job, legal age limit of 18, a son or daughter. All of these are ways that society has to say that you are now a man. Different religions also have ways of bringing young boys into adulthood through traditional religious ceremonies.
Yet, with what society and religion has to throw at all the young kids in this world how does either know when that child is mature enough for adulthood?
The way I started to feel like a “young man” was by the usual age process, getting into college, a job, and of course bills. But that is not the point and time when I finally understood that I had bridged the gap and entered into manhood.
For me it was when the men in my life, my father, my mentor, and my best friends father (Randy) began talking to me at a spiritual level of equal grounds. While these men are by far further along in their spiritual walks, there came a day when each of them sat with me and discussed life and faith at a new level. It was not the usual father to son type of talk, it was man to man.
Yes there are societal factors in my life that made me understand I was now in a new world of responsibility and understanding. But the “mature” (I use the term lightly) I came when the those who had been looking over me and guiding me had started to look at me as man of God with growing faith, and not just a boy wondering who God is.

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